{"id":3196,"date":"2016-02-15T09:23:17","date_gmt":"2016-02-15T09:23:17","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blokland.net\/wp\/?p=3196"},"modified":"2019-07-24T09:57:00","modified_gmt":"2019-07-24T09:57:00","slug":"noise-again","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blokland.net\/wp\/noise-again\/","title":{"rendered":"Noise (again)"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I found myself volunteering for a role in the Noisy-committee of the club.\u00a0We have to abide by the rules, so the first question is &#8221;what are the rules?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>Following is just a collection of bits and pieces, just to get started.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.dmfv.aero\/mitgliedschaft\/downloads\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">DMFV<\/a>\u00a0 \u00a0\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.dmfv.aero\/files\/Bundeseinheitliche-Richtlinien.pdf\">(pdf LuftVO)<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.modellflug-im-daec.de\/ddl\/service\/recht\/lr_NfL_II_70-04_Auszug.pdf\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">DAEC<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.modellbau-bocholt.de\/images\/mbg\/dokumente\/flugplatzordnung_2011.pdf - Google Chrome\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">Bocholt<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.rc-network.de\/magazin\/artikel_03\/art_03-0020\/art_03-0020-00.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">RC-Network<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.rc-network.de\/forum\/showthread.php\/165424-Messverfahren-richtig-anwenden-f%C3%BCr-den-L%C3%A4rmpass\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\">More RC-Network<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/blokland.net\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/Laermmessung1a.pdf\" rel=\"\">Laermmessung1a<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.rc-network.de\/magazin\/artikel_03\/art_03-0020\/immission-v22.zip\">Excel sheet for calcs<\/a>\u00a0(download to your pc)<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.lmfc.de\/Laermpegelmessung.html\">LMFC<\/a><\/p>\n<p>All about audio:\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/www.sengpielaudio.com\/Rechner-entfernung.htm\">audio-stuff<\/a><\/p>\n<p>https:\/\/www.modellbau-bocholt.de\/images\/mbg\/dokumente\/flugplatzordnung_2011.pdf<\/p>\n<p>Paragraph 9: 60 dBa at the nearest house!! Which is rather an important fact. Whivh would translate into 78dB(A) at our site!<\/p>\n<p>https:\/\/www.laermorama.ch\/m1_akustik\/schallpegel_w.html#rechnen<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Equipment: \u00a0anything under 200 Euronen is not worth looking at.. It needs to be a Class 2 certified one.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.conrad.de\/de\/laserliner-soundtest-master-schallpegel-messgeraet-laerm-messgeraet-mit-integriertem-langzeitspeicher-315-hz-bis-8000-hz-kalibriert-nach-werksstandard-123333.html\">Laserliner<\/a>\u00a0 (various prices, from 160-270, so shop around. ) Can be calibrated!! wich is Very Important! \u00a0Of course those calibrators are not cheap:\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/de.aliexpress.com\/item\/ND9A-Sound-Noise-Level-Meter-Calibrator-94dB-114dB-NEW\/32426059270.html\">calibrator<\/a>. <a href=\"https:\/\/www.norsonic.com\/en\/applications\/measuring_sound\/calibrating\/\">Why you need one<\/a>\u00a0 (This site has a lot of good &#8221;howto&#8221; info.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/en.wikipedia.org\/wiki\/Sound_level_meter\">Wiki:\u00a0Sound meters<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/www.driesen-kern.de\/downloads\/pulsar_modell_105-106_akustischer_kalibrator_d.pdf\">Calibrator<\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>We also have a very high back ground noise at the field, caused by the Betuwe Lijn. I have measured in excess of 60 dBA when the train passes on a quit afternoon. The houses that we want to &#8221;protect&#8221; are much closer to the railway, so they already suffer from much higher noise then whatever we can add. That&#8217;s another story!<\/p>\n<p>These guys did a lot of measurements, so use them to our advantage \ud83d\ude09<\/p>\n<p>https:\/\/www.umweltbundesamt.de\/sites\/default\/files\/medien\/461\/publikationen\/4005.pdf<\/p>\n<p>Our \u00a0location:<\/p>\n<p>https:\/\/www.emmerich.de\/c125747b002691ea\/files\/isophonenkarte_elten.pdf\/$file\/isophonenkarte_elten.pdf?openelement<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/blokland.net\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/FlugPlatz.jpg\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-3207\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-medium wp-image-3207 lazyload\" data-src=\"https:\/\/blokland.net\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/FlugPlatz-280x400.jpg\" alt=\"FlugPlatz\" width=\"280\" height=\"400\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/blokland.net\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/FlugPlatz-280x400.jpg 280w, https:\/\/blokland.net\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/FlugPlatz.jpg 482w\" data-sizes=\"(max-width: 280px) 100vw, 280px\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMSIgaGVpZ2h0PSIxIiB4bWxucz0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy53My5vcmcvMjAwMC9zdmciPjwvc3ZnPg==\" style=\"--smush-placeholder-width: 280px; --smush-placeholder-aspect-ratio: 280\/400;\" \/><\/a><a href=\"https:\/\/blokland.net\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/GglMaps.jpg\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-3208\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-medium wp-image-3208 lazyload\" data-src=\"https:\/\/blokland.net\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/GglMaps-400x388.jpg\" alt=\"GglMaps\" width=\"400\" height=\"388\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/blokland.net\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/GglMaps-400x388.jpg 400w, https:\/\/blokland.net\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/GglMaps.jpg 536w\" data-sizes=\"(max-width: 400px) 100vw, 400px\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMSIgaGVpZ2h0PSIxIiB4bWxucz0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy53My5vcmcvMjAwMC9zdmciPjwvc3ZnPg==\" style=\"--smush-placeholder-width: 400px; --smush-placeholder-aspect-ratio: 400\/388;\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>https:\/\/www.google.nl\/maps\/@51.8666569,6.1551396,769m\/data=!3m1!1e3<\/p>\n<p>Worth mentioning is that the allowed noise level at this location is 59dBA during daylight hours. (in the Lautst\u00e4rkeGleichenkarte Elten above.)<\/p>\n<p>source:\u00a0https:\/\/www.emmerich.de\/de\/inhalt\/drittes-gleis-und-laermschutz\/<\/p>\n<p>So, what is the max level that we are theoretically allowed to produce to reach the 59dBA level?? The distance to the houses is 200 meter (centre of field), therefore a max level is 77dBA is theoretically allowable. This is not to say that we should be lower! \u00a0\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/blokland.net\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/MaxSound-1.jpg\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-3212\"><br \/>\n<\/a><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/blokland.net\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/MaxSound-1.jpg\" rel=\"attachment wp-att-3212\"><img decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft wp-image-3212 lazyload\" data-src=\"https:\/\/blokland.net\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/MaxSound-1-400x238.jpg\" alt=\"MaxSound\" width=\"550\" height=\"327\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/blokland.net\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/MaxSound-1-400x238.jpg 400w, https:\/\/blokland.net\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/MaxSound-1-768x458.jpg 768w, https:\/\/blokland.net\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/02\/MaxSound-1.jpg 968w\" data-sizes=\"(max-width: 550px) 100vw, 550px\" src=\"data:image\/svg+xml;base64,PHN2ZyB3aWR0aD0iMSIgaGVpZ2h0PSIxIiB4bWxucz0iaHR0cDovL3d3dy53My5vcmcvMjAwMC9zdmciPjwvc3ZnPg==\" style=\"--smush-placeholder-width: 550px; --smush-placeholder-aspect-ratio: 550\/327;\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Of course, knowing the level does not help you any further if you want to fix_it. Some kind of octave-filter app is almost a must, but most I-phone\/Androids have plenty gadgets to held you find the offending frequencies. (Needless to say, it almost always is the prop\/exhaust noise that is the cause of the problem.)<\/p>\n<p>Procedure: \u00a0from\u00a0https:\/\/www.mfc-hameln-lachem.de\/flugsicherheit\/laermmessung<\/p>\n<p>Die Messungen sind unter folgenden Bedingungen durchzuf\u00fchren:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Das Flugmodell ist so zu positionieren, dass sich der im Abschnitt L\u00e4rmmesspunkte definierte Bezugspunkt in einer H\u00f6he von 1 m \u00b1 0,1 m \u00fcber dem Boden befindet und die Flugzeugl\u00e4ngsachse parallel zum Boden verl\u00e4uft. Das Luftfahrtbundesamt kann in Sonderf\u00e4llen eine andere Aufstellungsgenehmigen.<\/li>\n<li>Zur Vermeidung von Reflexionen d\u00fcrfen in einem Umkreis von 30 m um das Mikrofon sowie um das Flugmodell keine die Messung beeinflussenden Gegenst\u00e4nde vorhanden sein.<\/li>\n<li>Die L\u00e4rmmessung muss auf einem kurzgem\u00e4hten Grasboden erfolgen.<\/li>\n<li>Das Flugmodell ist so zu positionieren, dass sich die Flugzeugl\u00e4ngsachse in einem Winkel von 90\u00b0 \u00b1 30\u00b0 zur Windrichtung befindet. Die L\u00e4rmmessung hat auf der zum Wind abgewandten Seite des Modells zu erfolgen.<\/li>\n<li>Die Windgeschwindigkeit darf 5m\/sec nicht \u00fcberschreiten.<\/li>\n<li>Die Messung muss an jedem Punkt \u00fcber einen Zeitraum von mindestens 30 s erfolgen; ma\u00dfgebend ist der h\u00f6chste in diesem Zeitraum gemessene Pegel.<\/li>\n<li>Die Umgebungstemperatur muss zwischen 10\u00b0C und 30\u00b0 C liegen; keinNiederschlag.<\/li>\n<li>Das Umgebungsger\u00e4usch muss mindestens 10 dB(A) unter dem vom Modellerzeugten Ger\u00e4usch liegen.<\/li>\n<li>Die Messung muss bei Vollgas erfolgen. Eine Limitierung von Leistung und Drehzahl, die zur Erf\u00fcllung der L\u00e4rmschutzforderungen vorgenommen wird, ist nicht erlaubt.<\/li>\n<li>F\u00fcr die Messung muss ein Pr\u00e4zisionsschallpegelmesser nach DIN EN 60651 oder nach DIN EN 60804, in beiden F\u00e4llen mindestens Klasse 2, in der Betriebsart \u201elangsam\u201c (\u201eslow\u201c) und im Anzeigemodus \u201edB(A)\u201c verwendet werden. Die Kalibrierung der Messanlage mit einem\u00a0 akustischen Schalldrucknormal zur \u00dcberpr\u00fcfung der Empfindlichkeit der Anlage und zur Ermittlung des Bezugspegels darf nicht l\u00e4nger als zwei Jahre zur\u00fcckliegen.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Auf unserem Gel\u00e4nde gelten folgende Werte:<\/p>\n<ul>\n<li>Kolbenmotor 82 dB (A) &gt;&gt; in our situation it is 78<\/li>\n<li>Turbine\u00a0 90 dB (A)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p>Also part of the whole thing a flightlog? (automated\/RaspberryPi?)<\/p>\n<p>Find a meter with a usb connection to a laptop and use USB extenders. (For safety mostly)<\/p>\n<p>Make a decent test stand<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I found myself volunteering for a role in the Noisy-committee of the club.\u00a0We have to abide by the rules, so the first question is &#8221;what are the rules?&#8221; Following is just a collection of bits and pieces, just to get started. DMFV\u00a0 \u00a0\u00a0(pdf LuftVO) DAEC Bocholt RC-Network More RC-Network Laermmessung1a Excel sheet for calcs\u00a0(download to &#8230; <a title=\"Noise (again)\" class=\"read-more\" href=\"https:\/\/blokland.net\/wp\/noise-again\/\" aria-label=\"Read more about Noise (again)\">Read more<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":3207,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[20,28],"tags":[37,39],"class_list":["post-3196","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-carden","category-sound","tag-carden","tag-noise"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/blokland.net\/wp\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3196","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/blokland.net\/wp\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/blokland.net\/wp\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blokland.net\/wp\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blokland.net\/wp\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=3196"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/blokland.net\/wp\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/3196\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blokland.net\/wp\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/3207"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/blokland.net\/wp\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=3196"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blokland.net\/wp\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=3196"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/blokland.net\/wp\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=3196"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}